Students at Loyola University in Chicago dropped a banner Friday in solidarity with NYU occupation, Chicago- Republic Workers occupation and Greek insurrection.
The list of demands is silly. You are alienating the public. Why don’t you focus on the real issue, namely student loans, student loans, student loans. Examine what happens to students who graduate into a dismal job market and are unable to make good on their loans. What arrangements does NYU have with Sallie Mae and other loan sharks? Why are student loans, most importantly private student loans, non-dischargeable in bankruptcy? Start asking the serious questions, put aside your juvenile sit-in tactics, and get to work.
“Recreating fantasies of the 1960s?”
“Mass murder worship?”
“Israel RESPONDS to constant rocket fires”
“all members of Take Back NYU! should immediately be sent to Gaza”
“their effort to avoid productive labor”
It’s like you take your talking points straight from corporate talk-radio or something… I guess that’s where you get your news, your account of history, AND your political consciousness from.
But go ahead and lay on your misdirected anger. I suppose even false speech is free speech.
As a Palestinian I thank you for you efforts to
help rebuild The Islamic University of Gaza
and help to liberate the Palestinian people.
We should see where the money is going.
hey, don’t worry. all these critices are saying is that we don’t need to use direct action anymore. barack is going to fix everything for all of us. so stop thinking and acting for yourself already! all the work was done at the ballot box! just sit back and wait…
As a Lebanese-American student (CAS ‘11) and a firm supporter of a Palestinian nation I am ashamed and embarrassed how you treated our cause - to make others aware of the Israeli occupation. It was nothing more than just another attempt to get people to care about your little sleepover. I am 110% for budget disclosure and better financial aid but you guys need to stop acting like you’re all social radicals who speak for the school (you even begin your list of demands saying “we the students of NYU” when really you are such a minority compared to the 20,000 of us). I come from a strong liberal background but I am in no way supportive of this dumb publicity stunt. You basically ruined any chances of dialogue with the administration b/c now they think we’re all kids who like to throw buzz words to make themselves look important.
vanissa, how can you say this whole media circus was not an act of self-importance? Self-righteous students who think they’re doing us a favor by wasting our time and money and making the worst demands imaginable (like making bobst public for all? now I know you are out of touch with reality). and Post #3, don’t accuse people of siding with corporate America because in the end, we are ALL CONSUMERS. I know that must break your pseudo-Bohemian heart but by going to NYU and having mommy and daddy take out loans or shell out $50,000 a year, you are nothing but a sheep. Start thinking realistically about what we need to address, like budget disclosure. NOT satisfying your need to look like a martyr for the students, because in reality you are the butt of our jokes - and the root of the typical NYU student stereotype.
Vanissa, why don’t you go to University of Gaza yourself if you are so inclined to help them out instead of fellow classmates? Either you don’t go to NYU and don’t know the true challenges it faces, you wish you went to NYU and you want to feel like you belong by claiming you know what we can and cannot do, or if you are from NYU, you are one of those kids who loves the musical RENT (but fail to realize that you are helping to evict squatters: you are the spawn of Benjamin Coffin, that YUPPIE SCUM!)
And I love watching the video of those kids running away when they find out the cops have penetrated their beloved kimmel. How strongly you guys stand for your ideals! I’m glad you’re out of housing. We should send a student more deserving of such space - like university student from Gaza, who is seriously experiencing alot more oppression than you will ever understand - to take your place as residents AND students. NYU has no room for kids who think they can change the world by whining.
lyndsey,
one day, if you ever have the balls to stand up for anything you believe in, you’ll be facing the same close-minded-quick-to-judge comments that you’re irresponsibly spewing, as well.
but that would take you standing up for something you believe in first, which, sadly, may never happen, because you’re too busy judging people who care to stand for something.
Agreed. I completely imagine that their “global”, narcissistic campaign will sputter within the month or march the latest. Take back NYU nor any of its allies have the ability to make changes, but they will continue to pester institutions that have no obligation to house them and grant the voice they claim to have.
TBNYU does not speak for NYU, even though their, “whose school? Our school!” banter advertises school wide support.
TBNYU’s allies should know that they are siding with a fringe group, who had to rely on miscreants from the New School and other non-NYU supporters to stage their “protest”.
@ Vanissa
I believe in standing up to you and your more ridiculous ideas. TBNYU’s demands are not all terrible, but you have certainly crossed the line of the majority of the student body.
And dearest Michael, no I do not go to NYU, nor do I wish I did (wow, some serious pretentiousness! At this point I’m expecting your poop to smell like flowers), and no, I am not “one of those kids who love RENT.” You need to work on your stereotyping because you pretty much FAIL.
I would like to use this image in a student newspaper, but I can’t find any contact info on this Web site. Please respond to my hidden e-mail ASAP or call 936 525 0570
Sarah Lawrence Students in Solidarity with NYU Protesters Call for End to Retaliation
Students at Sarah Lawrence College have been following the events at the Kimmel Center closely and with concern.
We protest NYU’s unwillingness to recognize the student protesters’ actions as legitimate, negotiate with the protesters, and fulfill the protesters’ demands. It is inappropriate when an institution of higher education trains its students to be scholars of conscience and action, yet reserves for itself the right to determine when and how “robust dialogue” occurs between “students, faculty, and administration”*. As critical thinkers, we have a difficult time reconciling NYU’s purported pedagogy of “commitment to free exchange of ideas, reasoned debate, and legitimate forms of protest” with the distinctly authoritarian actions of the administration in recent days*. We feel strongly that current and prospective NYU students, their parents, alums and the general public experience that same dissonance.
We demand that the participants in the student occupation be granted full amnesty and that there be no change in their status as enrolled students.
In addition, we affirm the demands of the protesters and insist that the administration grant them in full.
As a Sarah Lawrence student, I stand in Solidarity with my peers at NYU during this time of extreme financial crisis and political upheaval, and strongly urge NYU to cooperate ethically with the critical mass and lifeblood of its institution.
in struggle,
Erick A. Paulino ‘11 and
Students at Sarah Lawrence College
RESPONSES:
_ _
Dear Erick,
Thank you for your email. I am sure students at NYU appreciate your support. I have referred your email to appropriate representatives to address the substance of your email.
Jules A. Martin
VP NYU Global Security and Crisis Management
Department of Public Safety
_ _
Contact:
NYU Spokesperson: John Beckman cell: 917-968-4942 jhb5@nyu.edu
James Devitt, Deputy director, at 212-998-6808, at james.devitt@nyu.edu, or on his cell 914-522-3774.
The list of demands is silly. You are alienating the public. Why don’t you focus on the real issue, namely student loans, student loans, student loans. Examine what happens to students who graduate into a dismal job market and are unable to make good on their loans. What arrangements does NYU have with Sallie Mae and other loan sharks? Why are student loans, most importantly private student loans, non-dischargeable in bankruptcy? Start asking the serious questions, put aside your juvenile sit-in tactics, and get to work.
“Recreating fantasies of the 1960s?”
“Mass murder worship?”
“Israel RESPONDS to constant rocket fires”
“all members of Take Back NYU! should immediately be sent to Gaza”
“their effort to avoid productive labor”
It’s like you take your talking points straight from corporate talk-radio or something… I guess that’s where you get your news, your account of history, AND your political consciousness from.
But go ahead and lay on your misdirected anger. I suppose even false speech is free speech.
As a Palestinian I thank you for you efforts to
help rebuild The Islamic University of Gaza
and help to liberate the Palestinian people.
We should see where the money is going.
hey, don’t worry. all these critices are saying is that we don’t need to use direct action anymore. barack is going to fix everything for all of us. so stop thinking and acting for yourself already! all the work was done at the ballot box! just sit back and wait…
As a Lebanese-American student (CAS ‘11) and a firm supporter of a Palestinian nation I am ashamed and embarrassed how you treated our cause - to make others aware of the Israeli occupation. It was nothing more than just another attempt to get people to care about your little sleepover. I am 110% for budget disclosure and better financial aid but you guys need to stop acting like you’re all social radicals who speak for the school (you even begin your list of demands saying “we the students of NYU” when really you are such a minority compared to the 20,000 of us). I come from a strong liberal background but I am in no way supportive of this dumb publicity stunt. You basically ruined any chances of dialogue with the administration b/c now they think we’re all kids who like to throw buzz words to make themselves look important.
vanissa, how can you say this whole media circus was not an act of self-importance? Self-righteous students who think they’re doing us a favor by wasting our time and money and making the worst demands imaginable (like making bobst public for all? now I know you are out of touch with reality). and Post #3, don’t accuse people of siding with corporate America because in the end, we are ALL CONSUMERS. I know that must break your pseudo-Bohemian heart but by going to NYU and having mommy and daddy take out loans or shell out $50,000 a year, you are nothing but a sheep. Start thinking realistically about what we need to address, like budget disclosure. NOT satisfying your need to look like a martyr for the students, because in reality you are the butt of our jokes - and the root of the typical NYU student stereotype.
Vanissa, why don’t you go to University of Gaza yourself if you are so inclined to help them out instead of fellow classmates? Either you don’t go to NYU and don’t know the true challenges it faces, you wish you went to NYU and you want to feel like you belong by claiming you know what we can and cannot do, or if you are from NYU, you are one of those kids who loves the musical RENT (but fail to realize that you are helping to evict squatters: you are the spawn of Benjamin Coffin, that YUPPIE SCUM!)
And I love watching the video of those kids running away when they find out the cops have penetrated their beloved kimmel. How strongly you guys stand for your ideals! I’m glad you’re out of housing. We should send a student more deserving of such space - like university student from Gaza, who is seriously experiencing alot more oppression than you will ever understand - to take your place as residents AND students. NYU has no room for kids who think they can change the world by whining.
lyndsey,
one day, if you ever have the balls to stand up for anything you believe in, you’ll be facing the same close-minded-quick-to-judge comments that you’re irresponsibly spewing, as well.
but that would take you standing up for something you believe in first, which, sadly, may never happen, because you’re too busy judging people who care to stand for something.
@ Lyndsey.
Agreed. I completely imagine that their “global”, narcissistic campaign will sputter within the month or march the latest. Take back NYU nor any of its allies have the ability to make changes, but they will continue to pester institutions that have no obligation to house them and grant the voice they claim to have.
TBNYU does not speak for NYU, even though their, “whose school? Our school!” banter advertises school wide support.
TBNYU’s allies should know that they are siding with a fringe group, who had to rely on miscreants from the New School and other non-NYU supporters to stage their “protest”.
@ Vanissa
I believe in standing up to you and your more ridiculous ideas. TBNYU’s demands are not all terrible, but you have certainly crossed the line of the majority of the student body.
I’m confused as to why my post was erased - as most of the posts here are just as charged as mine was. either which way, I will restate why I support the NYU occupation:
I support and respect student occupations as direct actions contributing to the collective message of solidarity to the Palestinian people.
Successful occupations have been happening all over, for example, in the UK, over 20:
UEL: http://ueloccupation.blogspot.com/
Byam Shaw: http://byamshawpeoplesuniversity.blogspot.com/
UWE: http://uweoccupation.blogspot.com/
Edinburgh: http://edinburghunioccupation.wordpress.com/
Goldsmiths: http://goldsmithsoccupation.blogspot.com/
UEA: http://ueaoccupation.blogspot.com/
Glasgow: http://glasgowunioccupation.blogspot.com/
Manchester: http://manunioccupation.wordpress.com
Strathcylde: http://strathclydeunioccupation.wordpress.com/
Nottingham: http://occupationnottingham.wordpress.com/
Sheffield Hallam: http://shuoccupation.blogspot.com/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=59823934592#/group.php?gid=59823934592
QMUL: http://www.queenmaryoccupation.blogspot.com/
Bradford: https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/01/420448.html
LSE: http://lseoccupation.blogspot.com
Essex: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=45143838671
Warwick: http://warwicksolidaritysitin.wordpress.com/
KCL: http://kcloccupation.blogspot.com
SOAS: http://soassolidarity4gaza.blogspot.com/
Manchester Met: http://mmuoccupation.blogspot.com/
Oxford: http://occupiedoxford.wordpress.com/
Sussex: http://sussexoccupation.blogspot.com/
Birmingham: http://birminghamoccupation.wordpress.com/
Leeds: http://leedsunioccupation.blogspot.com/
Cambridge: http://cambridgegazasolidarity.blogspot.com
And dearest Michael, no I do not go to NYU, nor do I wish I did (wow, some serious pretentiousness! At this point I’m expecting your poop to smell like flowers), and no, I am not “one of those kids who love RENT.” You need to work on your stereotyping because you pretty much FAIL.
I would like to use this image in a student newspaper, but I can’t find any contact info on this Web site. Please respond to my hidden e-mail ASAP or call 936 525 0570
Sarah Lawrence Students in Solidarity with NYU Protesters Call for End to Retaliation
Students at Sarah Lawrence College have been following the events at the Kimmel Center closely and with concern.
We protest NYU’s unwillingness to recognize the student protesters’ actions as legitimate, negotiate with the protesters, and fulfill the protesters’ demands. It is inappropriate when an institution of higher education trains its students to be scholars of conscience and action, yet reserves for itself the right to determine when and how “robust dialogue” occurs between “students, faculty, and administration”*. As critical thinkers, we have a difficult time reconciling NYU’s purported pedagogy of “commitment to free exchange of ideas, reasoned debate, and legitimate forms of protest” with the distinctly authoritarian actions of the administration in recent days*. We feel strongly that current and prospective NYU students, their parents, alums and the general public experience that same dissonance.
We demand that the participants in the student occupation be granted full amnesty and that there be no change in their status as enrolled students.
In addition, we affirm the demands of the protesters and insist that the administration grant them in full.
As a Sarah Lawrence student, I stand in Solidarity with my peers at NYU during this time of extreme financial crisis and political upheaval, and strongly urge NYU to cooperate ethically with the critical mass and lifeblood of its institution.
in struggle,
Erick A. Paulino ‘11 and
Students at Sarah Lawrence College
RESPONSES:
_ _
Dear Erick,
Thank you for your email. I am sure students at NYU appreciate your support. I have referred your email to appropriate representatives to address the substance of your email.
Jules A. Martin
VP NYU Global Security and Crisis Management
Department of Public Safety
_ _
Contact:
NYU Spokesperson: John Beckman cell: 917-968-4942 jhb5@nyu.edu
James Devitt, Deputy director, at 212-998-6808, at james.devitt@nyu.edu, or on his cell 914-522-3774.